tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post5250923321831717752..comments2023-08-06T17:30:54.134-07:00Comments on Sage Parnassus: Dear Stephanie - A Word About AttentionNancy Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02574031101073589680noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-68505495869174944072012-01-26T20:49:22.366-08:002012-01-26T20:49:22.366-08:00Hi! I'm stopping by from the Carnival of Homes...Hi! I'm stopping by from the Carnival of Homeschooling - I'm posting there this week, too. I always appreciate a chance to be reminded of CM practices. The more review, the more likely I am to consistently employ the "methods."Tina Hollenbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694089806217921117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-89717430992802030282012-01-17T09:54:14.955-08:002012-01-17T09:54:14.955-08:00You're very welcome, Stephanie. Keep us poste...You're very welcome, Stephanie. Keep us posted, would you please?<br />Truly,<br />NancyNancy Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574031101073589680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-10405558265327550212012-01-17T09:53:25.371-08:002012-01-17T09:53:25.371-08:00Pam,
I love your favorite part.
Truly,
NancyPam,<br />I love your favorite part.<br />Truly,<br />NancyNancy Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574031101073589680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-76837353471162694212012-01-17T09:44:01.770-08:002012-01-17T09:44:01.770-08:00Glory Bea,
Thank you for your comments! I just re...Glory Bea,<br />Thank you for your comments! I just read an article about universities this morning that you might find interesting. Olasky says that in many cases, neither the teacher nor the student is working hard - http://www.worldmag.com/articles/19027 Hmmmm. Regardless, helping our children develop the habit of attention is a win-win situation, isn't it?<br />Truly,<br />NancyNancy Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574031101073589680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-46855660231112591662012-01-17T09:34:19.929-08:002012-01-17T09:34:19.929-08:00Heather,
Thank you for joining in this discussion...Heather,<br /><br />Thank you for joining in this discussion! I would agree that preparation before reading a passage to be narrated is important. I have some further thoughts based on what you have written, but will need to find some time later today or tomorrow to respond. <br /><br />Truly,<br />NancyNancy Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02574031101073589680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-13115799908134631632012-01-17T09:03:12.861-08:002012-01-17T09:03:12.861-08:00Disclaimer: I know I'm out of my league tryin...Disclaimer: I know I'm out of my league trying to contribute here but I'm anxious to improve some areas of our learning processes in our home, so even if I have to be corrected about what I say, I will learn something. :)<br />I had a thought while I read Stephanie's question and the first paragraph of your answer Nancy, as I pondered how to help my 8.5 year old narrate better after being read to. For example, we read through The Story of the World portions and then I ask him to tell back to me about what we read. I am doing same with the book on J.S. Bach by Opal Wheeler that we are working through. Frequently he gives very basic sentences that miss much of the rich detail. But he doesn't do this with his nature reader, so I know he can do better. So as I read this, I had that issue on my mind.<br />And what came to mind is perhaps I need to do better prepping him for what we are about to read by asking him to pay attention to the story elements.<br />Setting, characters, conflict, resolution, etc.<br />For instance, we are due to read about King Alfred this afternoon. So I can tell him to pay attention to what country or region King Alfred is king of, what problem will he encounter and how will he try to solve the problem and if he was successful or not. That way, he has things he has to be listening for, answers to make part of his narration. That should help him pick out the right details to remember who King Alfred was and why history remembers him.<br />I'm getting these ideas from Adam Andrews "Teaching the Classics" as I study his material so I can lead my son through thinking about what makes up a story.<br />We can even try to identify the nature of the conflict as some of those well known categories like, man vs. man, man vs. nature or animal, man against society, etc.<br />I thought that knowing that the story has a setting, specific people involved and a conflict to resolve will help him focus, purposefully listen and correctly narrate the details, thus helping him frame the story for future memory retrieval.<br />I have no CM quotes to base this process on but if you told me to look for things like the story elements as you read something to me that you knew contained them, I think I could listen and re-tell it better thus committing it to my long term memory.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04746411466999319743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-85025076947660668392012-01-14T18:12:08.318-08:002012-01-14T18:12:08.318-08:00Thank you so much for this, Nancy and friends! I ...Thank you so much for this, Nancy and friends! I think I will be revisiting the post over and over to let it sink in. Wonderful wisdom. I so appreciate you taking the time to answer. :)Stephaniehttp://www.revivingmotherhood.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-60812346938145074452012-01-14T11:03:27.311-08:002012-01-14T11:03:27.311-08:00Nancy, thanks for taking time to write this post. ...Nancy, thanks for taking time to write this post. What a silly experience I've had in my formal education -- read my own book during lecture :( then cram before the test! Now, I finally do just want to discuss ... but often while referencing my notes. Some day I may finally be educated to not have so many crutches. <br /><br />(Incidentally, my husband has never been a note-taker and is an academic whiz -- he studied hard in grade school and read A LOT as a child, on top of endless hours spent outdoors in the woods.)<br /><br />I love this idea: "All the methods of study in college helped to form the habit of attention. No notes were taken at lectures. Instead time was given immediately after the lecturer had left the room in which to write a report. These reports were expected to be short, clear and to the point, covering the whole matter of the lecture."<br /><br />Thanks again!Glory Beahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08816481384773698544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-241960203289083167.post-74337304378435159932012-01-14T06:09:23.463-08:002012-01-14T06:09:23.463-08:00You certainly excel in your many callings. It is n...You certainly excel in your many callings. It is nice to see the fruit that comes from such diligence, Nancy. Your son's future wife will be very blessed to have a listening husband.<br /><br />Listening to narrations helps moms too. It is a rare art to truly listen to someone. The concept of narration is multifaceted; because it teaches our children to listen well to all they learn, and then teaches their mothers to listen well back to them. <br /><br />Somedays, when they've told me all of their reading, I ask them to narrate about anything else that's going on in their lives. It's my favorite part.Pam...https://www.blogger.com/profile/10841982988173436843noreply@blogger.com